5B4 is correct for that lumi van, and i'll be emailing you momentarily and sending it to mark as well to host it for anyone that needs it in the future.
as for the ABS, it looks as if the A174 and A197 stream for the delco ABS VI is actually identical with some terminology change, so i'll be sending that as well...
Thanks Robert. I will look them over tonight when I get home from work.
Because of the ABS problem, I had been doing a lot of research attempting to locate a method by which I could read the ABS codes. It appears the only scanners capable of doing that are the Tech 1/2 and higher end devices ($2000 plus). TunerPro was the only place I found that even inferred the possibility of reading them. I am brand new at all this (still waiting on my cable to arrive in the mail) but do to my electronics background I grasped the process of how all this worked easily.
no problem. depending on the vehicle, there are other computers that only higher-end stuff and tunerpro can read as well, like airbag, electronic climate controls, BCM, all kinds of neat stuff.
Robert,
Unless I misunderstand the Data Stream files, I have to add a command to disable the PCM [Mode 8] prior to communicating with the ABS module.
Issue a PCM Mode 8 [F4, 56, 08] then
Issue a ABS Mode 0 [F9, 57, 01, 00]
I added the PCM Mode 8 command to the A197 ads file.
Dave
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Hey guys i just recently got the beta V5 and ive been using v4 for a long time with the datalogging ads files. i noticed the new one has the ADX filetype for ALDL logging. Could anyone tell me where to download a 6E '165 maf ADX file? I'd figure it would be very common, thanks a ton!
DaveB wrote:Robert,
Unless I misunderstand the Data Stream files, I have to add a command to disable the PCM [Mode 8] prior to communicating with the ABS module.
Issue a PCM Mode 8 [F4, 56, 08] then
Issue a ABS Mode 0 [F9, 57, 01, 00]
I added the PCM Mode 8 command to the A197 ads file.
Dave
you don't always have to enable mode 8, but it is good practice, especially when dealing with chatty systems. i've never had to for communicating with anty ABS module i've dealt with though.
85'irocz wrote:Hey guys i just recently got the beta V5 and ive been using v4 for a long time with the datalogging ads files. i noticed the new one has the ADX filetype for ALDL logging. Could anyone tell me where to download a 6E '165 maf ADX file? I'd figure it would be very common, thanks a ton!
V5 will actually allow you to import a V4 file and save an ADX based on it.
just go to the acquisition tab, and select import definition, find your current ADS, then it will ask where to save the ADX at.
85'irocz wrote:Hey guys i just recently got the beta V5 and ive been using v4 for a long time with the datalogging ads files. i noticed the new one has the ADX filetype for ALDL logging. Could anyone tell me where to download a 6E '165 maf ADX file? I'd figure it would be very common, thanks a ton!
V5 will actually allow you to import a V4 file and save an ADX based on it.
just go to the acquisition tab, and select import definition, find your current ADS, then it will ask where to save the ADX at.
Hey Robert, would you be able to add MAP in kPa to the $0D.ads file on the Tunerpro.net website? It currently has MAP only in Volts, which doesn't help me.
I figure MAP in kPa wouldn't be too difficult because it is available in DataMaster-0D (ran out of free logs, only need a few extra).
MODE 0 (RETURN TO NORMAL MODE)
ALDL REQUEST:
- MESSAGE ID = $F5
- MESSAGE LENGTH = $56
- MODE = $00
- SUM CHECK
TCM RESPONSE:
NONE
MODE 1 (TRANSMIT FIXED DATA STREAM)
ALDL REQUEST:
- MESSAGE ID = $F5
- MESSAGE LENGTH = $57
- MODE = $01
- MESSAGE = $00
- SUM CHECK
THE TCM WILL RESPOND WITH THE FOLLOWING MESSAGE:
- MESSAGE ID = $F5
- MESSAGE LENGTH = $AB
- MODE = $01
- DATA BYTE 1
.
.
- DATA BYTE 85
- SUM CHECK
MODE 10 (CLEAR MALFUNCTION CODES)
ALDL REQUEST:
- MESSAGE ID = $F5
- MESSAGE LENGTH = $56
- MODE = $0A
- CHECKSUM
THE TCM WILL RESPOND WITH THE FOLLOWING MESSAGE:
- MESSAGE ID = $F5
- MESSAGE LENGTH = $56
- MODE = $0A
- SUM CHECK
..PAGE
..HEAD02L ALDL DATA LIST
..HEAD03L NUMBER OF DATA WORDS - 85
..HEAD04L ALDL MODE 1 DATA LIST
I am not totally sure I got the checksums right I am just guessing on the values for them really. It says connected then it never gives any meaningful data.
Also are you willing to write xdf files for people? I can't find any complete tutorials on how to disassemble the bin files so I am probably going to give up and pay someone to write it for me.
IIRC, mark is working on getting the ~90 vette stuff working but has yet to find anyone local to test on, i guess there's some kind of goofiness that goes on with the digital dash that makes ALDL harvesting difficult?
the $42 has been around a long time, wondering if there is any more in there to get like Injector Size, cylinder volume etc... I see these in maf chips and the 16197427.
Glenn, it sounds like you're referring to the $42 XDF.
it's a bit OT, but i can elaborate on it a bit since it's came up before.
the $42 mask(and quite a few others as well) doesn't use an injector size scalar or a cylinder size scalar either... they are actually both combined into a single scalar/table, usually referred to as BPC/BPW vs EGR%.
couldn't tell you why GM did this, but you'll notice that as EGR% increases, the value decreases, this is due to the gases recirculated by the EGR valve(s) taking up space that combustible air would otherwise occupy, so less fuel is needed, this is how the ECM accounts for that.
so, knowing that smaller numbers deliver less fuel, you can now account for injector flow and engine displacement changes.
larger injectors need a smaller number.
more displacement needs a larger number.
ideally, get an engine tuned on stock injectors(idle fueling correct at least), then:
change your injectors and adjust the BPC/BPW table/scalar until the fueling is corrected again(without playing with the VE tables since VE should not have changed from injectors alone)
or
bore/stroke/drop in a different block with the original injectors and adjust the BPC/BPW until correct. if you go far enough you'll likely need larger injectors on a larger engine anyway, so you can probably skip this step if necessary and make intelligent decisions about VE and BPC/BPW values.
That's why I am confused, there is none? The only other option in tables in the $42 is BPW Constant Multipkier VS Barometric.
Now in Scalars there is a BPW Constant for EGR Off. This is a single setting, no adjustments. So I guess this is the major setting before playing with VE?
Robert,
A while ago you sent me an ADX for $DA3. When you get a chance can you eyeball it and let me know if the equation that calculates the value for Left and Right BPW is correct?
I have looked around for a hack document for this datastream but so far I have come up empty.
robertisaar wrote:TP V4 has trouble communicating with EE cars due to the 5(IIRC) datastreams the PCM pushes out.
fixed in V5...
i have a 94 z28 lt1 auto
do i need tp v5?
what do i need to get going. i have v4.14
and i geuss i need the $ee def file and stock bin? sorry im new and the more i read the more im not sure.
so if version 5 is out i geuss i need that and any help you can give me would be awesome thanks in advance.
i have a cable from aldl cables its a usb.
ok i got version 5 now and i think the $ee file but whats the note about 3rd party software to upload tune.
tunerpro does not support, and may never support, uploading or downloading tunes from the flash PCMs.
i imagine that could be added in through a plug-in, but i'm the wrong person to ask about that.
for just datalogging, you only need the proper ADX for your application. since you have an auto car, there should be a defintion on the downloads page for you that should work.
i cant get it to communicate with the pcm. i believe i have a early year 94 lt1 so i hear theres a $eeb file. i followed this how to http://www.camaroz28.com/forums/showthr ... ?p=6628473 but cant display any live data. im using windows 7 help im going nutts i just need to data stream and i figured out what i need to flash my pcm but i just cant get this to work with my car. ive loaded the correct xdf and the adx im not sure i think its the problem but its off your site. i can see the list of data but no numbers so no engine speed , theres no data, my cable shows as working fine.
robertisaar wrote:tunerpro does not support, and may never support, uploading or downloading tunes from the flash PCMs.
i imagine that could be added in through a plug-in, but i'm the wrong person to ask about that.
for just datalogging, you only need the proper ADX for your application. since you have an auto car, there should be a defintion on the downloads page for you that should work.