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PhilStubbs

Is this possible? I have an ecu and throttle body from a throttle body injected 1990 Silverado. I only care about having the ecu control fuel. It's going into a cj7 jeep with 258 inline 6. The factory distributor has vacuum advance, but I would assume has crank position needed for fuel injection. It...

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Can cell tracing be done through the ostrich? I have a 2nd gen ostrich. I can deal with no real logging, but cell tracing really speeds up the process.

PhilStubbs

Just wondering since buell and Harley are pretty much the same thing, if Tunerpro would work in my 2012 sportster.

PhilStubbs

I had someone recently ask me about tuning an SR20, the ecu is the one that needs 2 28pin chips using the daughter board from moates. I tuner friend of mine says even though the parts are available, it doesn't actually work. Just figured I'd come to the source and ask and if so, how can you send a b...

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is there a way that i could change the way the ecu logs the stock o2 input to show my wideband output? it seems like it would be a simple ads modification but im no expert in programming. just a tuner. lol

PhilStubbs

maybe i should clarify a bit. i spoonfeed people on forums a lot. im all for someone trying to learn. i charge to tune cars, i have money invested in equipment, it takes up 1-3 hours of my time and its never at a convenient time for me. at the same time, i explain everything i do to a customers car ...

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the problem is honda kids are cheap and lazy. they all want free tuning software they dont have to work for. some of them will actually step up and buy software, 99% of the cars i tune they all ask for crome. they wont pay an extra $100 on top of my tune cost for real software that doesnt have odd g...

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Innovate provides everything needed to make a plug in on their website for free. I would have already done it, but that's over my head.

PhilStubbs

Every bit of my tuning equipment came from moates.net...... even before they gave me a demon for my racecar. Lol

PhilStubbs

I run it on my windows 7 64bit laptop with no issues.

PhilStubbs

here it is. right click, save as

http://evansperformance.net/engine%20ma ... %20xdf.xdf

PhilStubbs

I haven't had much time. Been tuning a lot(with crome,meh) and trying to get this bathroom remodel done. I'll try to get it loaded up on my server tonight.

PhilStubbs

the screw up was on my end. i didnt realize that i didnt have the newest version of TP. your adx looks great so far

PhilStubbs

Sending the file without zipping it seems to work. I only opened it in notepad on the computer here at work, but all of the addresses are there, tables are properly sized with all of the rpm/mbar labels. I'll check it out better at home with my tuning laptop tonight

PhilStubbs

maybe this will help you out. i have enough on my plate even before trying to make an adx for hondas. lol

http://pgmfi.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc ... 20Current/

PhilStubbs

That list on pgmfi.org is missing some things. Hondas do have a lot of the same stuff, but they use different terms. Check out the advanced tables in Crome. Also, something that might help with all of this, all of the multipliers for ect corrections, iat corrections, etc. were written in JavaScript ...

PhilStubbs

The adx file you sent me didn't have any bin addresses set up. Everything said 00. I didnt try your bin, I just made a stock p30 bin in Crome and then tried to open it in TP. That worked fine for my p28 adx. The same p30 bin showed info in my p28 adx, it didn't make much sense due to the addresses b...

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so, i checked out your adx and something is odd. i played with it for about an hour and couldnt get it to show any information. the exact same bin in my adx shows info, but shows nothing in yours. it would be very helpful if someone that has made an adx file of some sort could give a little insight.

PhilStubbs

Yea, it had some good info but I feel like there might be some things missing.

PhilStubbs

I'm the last person to say anything bad about anyone's file, this is my first attempt too. We will see, hopefully other people will get involved and we can see this through.

PhilStubbs

I have access to ecu control files, I'll see what I can dig up

PhilStubbs

Email your file to me and I'll host it with a link here. sevans@evansperformance.net I copied all of the table data from Crome. I tried to get TP to use the info from the bin file, but it never worked for me. I am probably overlooking something simple. If I get a chance, I might test my adx on a run...

PhilStubbs

I don't fully understand checksums so I don't know. I do know Crome has an option to disable the checksum and that could be added into TP since its just changing one address in the bin. I think you are right about rom addresses, my guess is that they can be used for logging. With enough people invol...

PhilStubbs

I came across that before I decided to start. They haven't gotten any farther than I have. The ignition and fuel tables are pretty easy, we all have hit the same road block. Most of my problem is trying to learn how all of this works while also making something that hasn't been done. I have tons of ...

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this is all i have for now. if anyone wants to add to it feel free. i dont know how much more i have the ability to do

(right click, save link as)

http://evansperformance.net/engine%20management/p28.xdf

PhilStubbs

My understanding is Mangus(posted a few posts up) is the author of TunerPro and he was offering to help. So I'm guessing he doesn't have one. As far as pgmfi.org, I have been a member there for almost 10 years and somewhat know Blundar( site admin), I have been talking to him directly on the subject...

PhilStubbs

With Hondas I just wire my lc1 into the stock narrowband input. Then setup the program to show 7:1 0v and 22:1 5v. Those are round numbers but you get the point. I would ASSume TP can do the same, I just haven't messed with it enough to know. Auto-tune is a joke. Just let someone else drive while yo...

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The xdf doesn't matter for b, d, f, or h series. It's the ecu. I recently started on a p28 xdf and I got the high and low fuel and ignition tables done. There is still a ton of work left to get all of the ect/iat multipliers done along with figuring out how boost tables are added. It seems to also b...

PhilStubbs

I don't see how that is possible. How could a program decipher tables from switches and then tell the difference between fuel and ignition tables?

PhilStubbs

Also, I just found this. I am guessing this can be used to make a defenition file?

http://wikitest.pgmfi.org/twiki/bin/view.pl/Library/P28

PhilStubbs

any progress on this? i would love to get away from crome for tuning hondas. it seems like a great package on the outside, it works with the moates ostrich, demon, and burn 2. there are a lot of downsides to it though. you can tune around these issues, but i would much rather not. i have tuned a few...

PhilStubbs

Bumping a somewhat old thread here. I have done a TON of Honda tuning with crome/neptune and a little GM tuning with tunerpro. I don't know much about the coding end, but I can follow directions. Is there anything I could do to help? Crome free doesn't datalog so having tunerpro do it would be a hug...

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im not real up on the bmw tuning stuff, but i have been tuning hondas for years and recently got into GM stuff. i am also planning to tune my obd1 m3 in the near future. all of my research shows that you cant really log obd1 bmw's. you can do cell tracing through the ostrich and that will also emula...

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I answered this very question 2 threads down.

http://tunerpro.net/forum/viewtopic.php ... e7d864ef3d

PhilStubbs

The ostrich is only for real time programming. It isn't a requirement but it will make your tuning go so much quicker. http://www.moates.net/gm-obd1-pre1996-c-64.html Pretty much everything you need is in that link. There is a lot of stuff in there that you don't need too. Just look for the stuff I ...

PhilStubbs

Yes you can program while running using the ostrich. It is an EEPROM emulator meaning it plugs in like a chip and has a USB cable.

I can't really answer the chip question. I have never had one go bad due to programming too many times.

PhilStubbs

It can be overwhelming at first. I have tuned tons of hondas but had a hard time getting the gm stuff all sorted out. For hardware my setup is a moates ostrich 2, socket booster, g1 24-28 pin adaptor and a cable1 for logging. All of that is from moates if that wasn't clear. You will also need some s...

PhilStubbs

It seems like I read somewhere that my 7747 ECM couldn't do that with the egr, that's why I was thinking about the NB wire.

PhilStubbs

Hopefully this is the last thing. Lol Is it possible to log my lc-1 through the narrowband wire? Trying to glance back and forth from the wideband and cell tracing is tough. Or is there some other way to log the wideband? I have tried searching to see if I could log with logworks through the ALDL ca...

PhilStubbs

Well, I got to do some tuning Saturday. Everything works. Thanks for your help good sir.

PhilStubbs

ok, here is a screenshot of where i end up following your directions. it wont let me put anything in the x or y boxes(not that i know what needs to go in there anyway) lol http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss152/SecksyPeePee/tunerproscreenshot.png ok, so right after posting this, something caught m...

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I will have to take a screenshot tonight. I had everything loaded up as if I was going to tune but with no hardware connected and I don't see any way to edit.

PhilStubbs

ok, i found what you are talking about. do i need to have the truck running and everything connected? also, what exactly needs to be in the x and y spaces? sorry for my im sure simple questions.

PhilStubbs

Well, after a little more playing with it, I got it working. I downloaded a different ADS file and no more warning and it shows info.

Now I'm moving on to the issue of the cell tracing. The ADS file I have is from the tunerpro site. Does that one need editing to do that?

PhilStubbs

There was a pretty badass white one with a turbo. It sounded insane. I am about to build a 91 civic hatchback for next year. Gotta get this truck tuned to tow it though. Lol Speaking of the truck. I got a new ostrich cable cause I was having some problems with hondas too. That seems to have fixed th...

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Today is the last day. We got 15th(I think) in the auto-x and I managed a 15.5 in the 1/4 shifting at 6k cause it was breaking up.

I wasn't involved in building the car, I only tuned it but they wanted me to make some drag runs cause they are auto-x guys and I have some drag experience.

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Was it a turbo e30 BMW? I saw one that was pretty quick.

If you talk to him, we had the "Ken Block" civic hatch. The turbo spiked to 30psi or so and shot parts through the side of the block at the end of the day. Lol.

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I haven't had a chance to try it. I have been helping a couple guys from Canada with their Grassroots Motorsports $2010 Challenge car. I dyno tuned it on a local dyno last night and today was the auto-x. Tomorrow is the drag race and they want me to do most of the runs and I also have to do a quick ...

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I guess it really doesn't matter. Moates got aldl cables back in stock. I will just buy one.

PhilStubbs

I was poking around looking at some BMW stuff on this site(I have a 95 m3 I plan to tune eventually) and saw someone say you can do some logging with an ostrich 2 with tunerpro. Is that something I can do with a 7747 ECM or only the BMW stuff?

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