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Six_Shooter

Are the "column multipliers" what Crome does to add the boost function to stock Honda bins? I too had started on a Honda XDF, back when a friend of mine had his OBD1 Honda and needed some tuning. Somethings didn't seem to correlate between Crome and TP RT, but I chalked it up to me having ...

Six_Shooter

While I have never used my Ostrich without using my ALDL cable while tuning a '7747, it won't effect the performance of the Ostrich. Wait a tick..... Something just crossed my mind here. Have you disabled the checksum by replacing the mask ID byte 0x04 that has "42" there with "AA&quo...

Six_Shooter

How strong is the USB port on your laptop?

In the case of the '7747 and my experiance, is that the Ostrich has to be plugged into a strong USB port. The Socket booster seems to not allow power from the ECM to power up the Ostrich.

Six_Shooter

The VE numbers mean the same thing as you're used to.

The only reason for the upper map taper off to lower numbers is that engines require less fuel above thier torque peak, and is why there is the taper.

Six_Shooter

Get the ALDL cable, it will definatly cut down on the tuning time needed, especially when using the data tracing feature to know exactly what parts of the maps are being used. What sorts of problems were you having with the signal booster? Where were the switches set on both the Ostrich and the Sock...

Six_Shooter

I use TP RT on both on my Win7 machines, PC and laptop.

Six_Shooter

Using the Burn2 and Tuner Pro RT, the proper offset should be set automatically as you load the bin.

Six_Shooter

That's the page I used when I tried to burn the chip. I might try one more time. Have you ever needed the booster with a chip? I haven't needed a booster with an EPROM, but I did find it seemed to work more consistantly with the booster. I EFI'd my boss' '62 Suburban, using a '7747, and sometimes, ...

Six_Shooter

Yep. :) http://support.moates.net/2010/04/05/programming-chips-using-offsets/ You WILL need the Socket Booster 1.0 in order to use your Ostrich to tune the '7747. I have tried to tune without it, and only got very intermittant connection. Socket Booster 1.0 makes a solid connection. You do need the ...

Six_Shooter

To use the Ostrich 2.0 with a '7747 ECM, or other Delco ECMs that use the 2732 PROM, you need the Socket Booster 1.0. Did you solder a socket to the daughter board? I usually solder a socket to the daughter board, so that I can switch between the EPROM adaptor and the socket booster/Ostrich. I don't...

Six_Shooter

Tuning the '7747 ECM is one of my least favorite things to do, mostly because of the SLOW datalogging baud rate. 160 baud vs the newer ECM's 8192 baud. The fuel tables are sorta split on these ECMs, GM also did the same on other ECMs as well. Probably has to do more with how the vehciles are used th...

Six_Shooter

You won't get any data displayed or even a connection until you open and ADS (V4) or ADX (V5). The ADS or ADX is what Tuper Pro RT uses to communicate with the ECM trhough the ALDL and know which byte means which value to be displayed. I would remove that Hypertech chip, and use the emulation capabi...

Six_Shooter

Which version and build number are you using?

Six_Shooter

What vehicle is this and what is the ECM number?

Six_Shooter

Uhg, yes...
Scott, just try it, you're not going to golly gee anything up, if it looks right, it probably is, just do it.

Six_Shooter

Using the proper offset?

Six_Shooter

I still use my Max232 home made cable on my desk top for bench testing.

I've had it for about 5 years now.

Six_Shooter

There are flags in the $0D bins for manual trans, non-electronc trans with VSS, without VSS, etc.

Six_Shooter

Only the '165 and possibly one other uncommon ECM require the 10 K resistor, and even then, it may only be needed to access certain datastream bits of information.

Six_Shooter

ok, this is odd.... i look up the 95 K1500 5.7 diagrams and i'm seeing 2 plugs if it has a manual trans, with the individual pins labeled A1-A12, B1-B12 and C1-C16, D1-D16... and for the auto, i'm seeing A1-A16, B1-B16 and E1-E16 F1-F16... Yes, most of the manual trans equipped truck in '93 and I t...

Six_Shooter

hmm..... alldata keeps refering to both an ECM and PCM for the application... For a manual tranny it would likely be referd to as an "ECM", since there would be no transmission control, but is the same control unit, just with a diferent MEMCAL and obviously slightly different wiring harne...

Six_Shooter

Yes, it works on playback.

Six_Shooter

top tag has the part number for the PCM, while the bottom number has the part number for the MEMCAL. technically, it's not a PCM, since IIRC, it would have had a third connector specifically for 4L60E/4L80E control... but i'm certainly not an expert on the late TBI stuff. The '7427 is a "PCM&q...

Six_Shooter

Currently I use V4 or any 160 baud work, like my boss' '62 Suburban, and at one time a friends '67 Chev C10, but that one has been changed to a later ECM with 8192 baud logging, I think I also had to use V4 for my friends T-Type Regal. I haven't had time to sit on my test bench long enough with a 16...

Six_Shooter

You should be able to download a proper ADS at moates.net, in the file manager. The ADS deciphers the datastream. You can use the ADS, watching values, without a bin or XDF loaded. If you're not planning to use TP RT to tune, you may want to look at using WinALDL, since I believe it supports your ca...

Six_Shooter

Tuner Pro does not work with Linux.

Six_Shooter

Sounds like you are using TP RT V4.

Have you selected a proper ADS? This is what deciphers the datastream.

Click on Tools>Preferences>ALDL/EMULATION tab, then set up the com port there. You can also test to make sure that TP RT is seeing the cable from that tab as well.

Six_Shooter

It would help if you also listed the ECM service number.

Look at $59, it requires the use of a '7749/'7730/'7727 and similar ECMs.

www.code59.org

Six_Shooter

This sounds like more of an open vs closed loop question than $A1 specific. FWIW, I run my Datsun ($59) in open loop, and have done so for most of the time it's been EFI. I have used closed loop for a bit just to see how well the WBO2 controls closed loop, but went back to open loop, because it seem...

Six_Shooter

I've tuned $A1 a few times for friends and always used open loop to do it.

I may have even left it in open loop...

Six_Shooter

I'm thinking of Z34...

Six_Shooter

A Z32 would use an ALDL interface cable, I'm not sure how well a Consult cable, that is made for a Nissan would work with the GM ECM.

Six_Shooter

I don't think I've ever seen an EFI boat with an O2 sensor. From what I see they all run in either open loop, or alpha-N.

Six_Shooter

The dash is part of the ADX. It is created within the ADX to use the values that are defined in the ADX.

Six_Shooter

Mangus wrote:www.tunerpro.net/pluginDevelopment.htm

Different username and password than when V5 was in pre-public testing?

I just tried what I had from back then and it didn't seem to work.

Six_Shooter

This is why the plug-in interface exists. It enables you guys (the community) to implement this stuff yourself. =) I haven't been able to figure out where I would "install" a plug in, or how to create one, that could be used by TP RT V5. I see "configure plug-in" boxes on the pr...

Six_Shooter

I have been getting XDF and ADX modified warnings popping up upon closing TP RT, even though I haven't modified either item. ADX modified warning comes up more often. This has happened with the last few builds. I haven't been able to pinpoint any pattern to why this would be just yet, but I'm trying...

Six_Shooter

Try imprting "7747_mine.ads", I used that one as a base (added a few things to it), and didn't have problems with V5, that I can recall.

Also, try the latest version of V5, there was a problem importing the xdf I believe in a previous build, might have effected ads/x as well.

Six_Shooter

Figured you would have. lol

Six_Shooter

I haven't tried this, since I just installed the latest version yesterday, but have you tried holding the shift button and then the arrow button up and down?

Or "Ctrl" to select multiple items?

Six_Shooter

It seems that showing compare data in table at least (I haven't checked anything else yet), does not work for the last few builds, I just noticed this today.

Copy from compare still works, even though you can't see the values before hand.

Six_Shooter

We are having paitence with you, we are answering your questions and trying to help.

Read this on offsets:
http://support.moates.net/2010/04/05/pr ... g-offsets/

I'll PM you my email later.

Six_Shooter

It also sounds like you're not using the correct offset, when prgramming the new EPROM, or possibly even reading the original EPROM. I'm worried about when you say the stock VE table was "choppy", I've never seen a stock cal, where the VE and even spark tables weren't somewhat smooth. So t...

Six_Shooter

Well, the "Dual Power" Willem Programmers were more involved, but that was just the addtion of changing a jumper between read and program, and if you changed chip types, then there were some dip switch settings to be changed.... The USB programmer "GQ-3X" is VERY easy to use, and...

Six_Shooter

The entire bin is stored on the EPROM. You have to realize that the bin will be at the end of the EPROM. Say you have a 27C512 EPROM, and you have a 32K bin, the bin itself will actually start at address 8000. This is normal. There is a way to read just the part you want, but it's been so long I do...

Six_Shooter

I don't have much time, I'm at work and should be doing so, lol. I just wanted to say this... $58 and $59 has been used with '7727 and possibly with your 1619____ ECM part number, I'll have to see what the service number is that Lucky used in his Land Rover on his Toyota engine, with $59. I'm wonder...

Six_Shooter

The entire bin is stored on the EPROM. You have to realize that the bin will be at the end of the EPROM. Say you have a 27C512 EPROM, and you have a 32K bin, the bin itself will actually start at address 8000. This is normal. There is a way to read just the part you want, but it's been so long I don...

Six_Shooter

Yes, then you need to worry about the XDF...

It would be MUCH easier to point you in the right direction if you listed your exact application.

Yes, a "hack" or "dissassembly" document is used to create an XDF.

Six_Shooter

If I understand correctly from reading posts, you cannot create a xdf from a bin. so my question is will intended xdf files posted work with all bins already in use or are they propietory to the software being used? I have a chip already installed and I am questioning rather or not the bin and the ...

Six_Shooter

You can read both MEMCALs, then use the compare and difference tools to see what is different between them.

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